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Naslov: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Дејан Ранковић 17.Nov. 2011, 17:33:24
Pozdrav Aleksandre
Napiši nešto o rodu zmija Vipera. O vrstama na Balkanu. Nešto u kratkim crtama
bitnim razlikama među njima. Znam za poskoka i šarku. Opiši Vipera ursinii i gde se
javlja. Koliko tačno vrsta zmija ima u Srbiji i koje su(valjda manje od deset).
U mom selu Belegišu u Sremu sam viđao: smuka, ribaricu i beloušku.
Pozdrav od Dejana
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 19.Nov. 2011, 16:11:36
Bice nesto ovih dana :) u guzvi sam nekoj trenutno
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Bojan Radeka 12.Maj. 2013, 17:51:03
Fotografija jednog tamnog mužijaka šarke Vipera berus, fotografisano pre godinu dana na Vršačkim planinama.
Vrste u Srbiji su:
Otrovnice: poskok, šarka i šargan
Neotrovne: smuk, stepski smuk, smukulja, belouška, ribarica
To je osam vrsta. Da li na jugu Srbije ima još nekih vrsta?
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Дејан Ранковић 12.Maj. 2013, 17:58:50
Bojane
Čuo sam za šarku na Vršačkim planinama.
Kaži na kojoj lokaciji je snimljen ovaj mužjak?
Pozdrav, Dejan
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Saša Rajkov 12.Maj. 2013, 18:08:14
Evo liste i linkova ka opisima neotrovnih vrsta (porodica Colubridae) na BioRaS portalu:
http://www.bioras.petnica.rs/takson.php?id=166

A evo i tri otrovnice (Viperidae):
http://www.bioras.petnica.rs/takson.php?id=199

Što dođe ukupno na 10.
Od mene toliko za sada. :)

A za šarku sa Vršačkih sam nekako mislio da je neki prastari literaturni podatak (kao što postoji za Frušku goru), al' vidiš... :)
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 12.Maj. 2013, 23:17:01
Populacija na Vršačkim je dobra, na jednom delu moj drugar i kolega Milivoj Krstic prati populaciju vec par godina.
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Saša Rajkov 12.Maj. 2013, 23:45:03
Populacija na Vršačkim je dobra, na jednom delu moj drugar i kolega Milivoj Krstic prati populaciju vec par godina.

Drago mi je da to čujem.

Neotrovne: smuk, stepski smuk, smukulja, belouška, ribarica
To je osam vrsta. Da li na jugu Srbije ima još nekih vrsta?

Što se vrsta na jugu tiče, tu su četvoroprugi smuk (Elaphe quatorlineata) - kratak rad o prvom nalazu za Srbiju možete pronaći ovde (http://fupress.net/index.php/ah/article/download/1294/1229), i šilac (Platyceps najadum). Obe su prisutne na području doline reke Pčinja. Za drugde ne bih znao.
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Milan Simonovic 12.Maj. 2013, 23:59:14
Nekoliko ammodytesa iz okoline Nisa...
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 23.Maj. 2013, 20:08:33
Evo malo mojih slika, prvo poskok Vipera ammodytes

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8193/8381490122_53503aba17_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8381490122/)
Vipera ammodytes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8381490122/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8507/8381493616_09f2659fb9_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8381493616/)
Vipera ammodytes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8381493616/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8380418651_c3ffdcdb62_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8380418651/)
Vipera ammodytes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8380418651/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8079/8368472858_c701b90e65_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8368472858/)
In situ photo of male Vipera ammodytes ammodytes, resting high on the tree (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8368472858/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8358/8305483411_634e9992d5_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8305483411/)
Vipera ammodytes (FYR Macedonia) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8305483411/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8168/7172714697_d25d064bfd_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7172714697/)
Vipera ammodytes with afternoon Sun (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7172714697/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7196549144_e7c786e402_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7196549144/)
Vipera ammodytes meridionalis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7196549144/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5320/7194607780_1b75ce0166_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7194607780/)
Vipera ammodytes (Nose-horned Viper) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7194607780/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7088/7196548086_2911744798_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7196548086/)
Vipera ammodytes meridionalis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/7196548086/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5266/5736767472_b705ceaec1_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736767472/)
Vipera ammodytes montandoni (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736767472/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3508/5736216597_49e0f78ecd_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736216597/)
Vipera ammodytes montandoni (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736216597/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5306/5736767184_d204a28512_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736767184/)
Vipera ammodytes montandoni (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736767184/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2024/5736766070_7bca8a2001_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736766070/)
Vipera ammodytes montandoni (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5736766070/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4106/5041972916_40c38d224d_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5041972916/)
IMG_4284.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5041972916/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4103/5041971364_ca7355edce_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5041971364/)
IMG_4175.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5041971364/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2583/4213129105_246f77227e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213129105/)
Vipera ammodytes, Serbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213129105/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4013/4213125669_d4fc2ce3ef_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213125669/)
Vipera ammodytes, Serbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213125669/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Dragisa Savic 24.Maj. 2013, 07:22:47
Svaka čast, jako su dobre fotografije. Odavno imam želju da slikam otrovnice ali šta ću kad ih ovde kod mene nema. Ustvari ima šarke na Fruškoj gori ali je užasno retka, video sam je samo jednom za 17 godina. :'(
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 24.Maj. 2013, 22:10:41
Da na Fruškoj je jako retka, ali pokušaj opet da ih nadješ na tom lokalitetu na kome si video tu jedno, ako je bila ta jedna ima ih još sigurno :)

evo malo fotki šarke:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8406861412_b1e49521af_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8406861412/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8406861412/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5029/5621581054_ae39f3874c_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5621581054/)
Vipera berus, female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5621581054/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5227/5620992967_30e147b886_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992967/)
Vipera berus, female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992967/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5021/5620992873_454b50733c_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992873/)
Vipera berus, male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992873/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5224/5620992709_21d15ef04b_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992709/)
Vipera berus, male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992709/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5023/5620992559_9841f49e4e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992559/)
Vipera berus, female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992559/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5309/5620992459_7c79a492fa_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992459/)
Vipera berus, male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5620992459/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5215/5453998057_54d806790d_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5453998057/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/5453998057/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4149/4970889126_e49cc374c1_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970889126/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970889126/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4124/4970888712_80f2d8bc96_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970888712/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970888712/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4086/4970276701_3c80dd48b3_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276701/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276701/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4126/4970276119_da2117a060_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276119/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276119/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4129/4970276385_3ba7c8a022_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276385/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970276385/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4126/4970275301_5e1ca35ec7_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970275301/)
Vipera berus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970275301/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2515/4213898218_2e4ab8fa7a_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213898218/)
Vipera berus, Serbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213898218/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2780/4213128471_b0b1a4914d_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213128471/)
Vipera berus, Serbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213128471/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2701/4213892792_abe1fdaf72_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213892792/)
Vipera berus, Serbia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4213892792/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Bojan Radeka 25.Maj. 2013, 20:20:54
Odlične fotke i ozbiljan terenski rad.
 :)
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 26.Maj. 2013, 09:55:25
Hvala Bojane  :), evo malo i sargana (Vipera ursinii)

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4087/4970279859_4512c7f50d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970279859/)
Vipera ursinii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970279859/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4099/4970890952_3821f8d0ed_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970890952/)
Vipera ursinii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970890952/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4088/4970278891_233bc18920_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970278891/)
Vipera ursinii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970278891/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4109/4970278621_caf4622cca_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970278621/)
Vipera ursinii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970278621/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4092/4970277997_a423d928e6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970277997/)
Vipera ursinii (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/4970277997/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: ihi 26.Maj. 2013, 10:40:02
Lako je hvalit ono što se samo hvali. Nemam reči. Čestitam.
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 26.Maj. 2013, 13:28:35
Hvala ihi :)

evo jos malo sarki, slikama i nisam nesto preterano zadovoljan, nisam imao mnogo vremena za slikanje, na brzaka sam napravio ovih nekoliko fotki.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/8839226035_6b5de6e6d6_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839226035/)
Vipera berus bosniensis - Adder (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839226035/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2870/8839227907_2a766c82cc_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839227907/)
Vipera berus bosniensis - Adder (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839227907/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8839232483_200aefe0b6_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839232483/)
Vipera berus bosniensis - Adder (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839232483/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2813/8839863196_49cab33b4a_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839863196/)
Vipera berus bosniensis - Adder (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8839863196/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/8831826658_3cf24fdc78_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8831826658/)
Vipera berus bosniensis - Adder (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aleksandar_simovic/8831826658/) by Aleksandar Simović (http://www.flickr.com/people/aleksandar_simovic/), on Flickr
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Дејан Ранковић 26.Maj. 2013, 14:53:20
Aleksandre
Naravno da se pridružujem prethodnim pohvalama za serijal slika.
Ako nije problem kratko opiši lokacije slikanja za sve tri otrovnice.
Pozdrav, Dejan
Naslov: Odg: Rod Vipera
Poruka od: Aleksandar Simović 26.Maj. 2013, 20:11:50
Hvala Dejane, uf prakticno sa celog Balkana,  morao bih da prekopavam foldere (sto cu i uraditi kada budem imao vremena), ove slike koje sam okacio mi stoje na flickru pa sam ih samo linkovao ovde.